Remember This BJU Grad Who Said That “Only Psychos Feel Abused”?

As we trudged through one BJU grad’s recent defense of his alma mater (and his follow-up tweet saying our analysis amounted to an attempt at “mind-reading”), we couldn’t help but be reminded of another far more candid BJU defender who said this when we reported on the GRACE investigation back in January 2013:

The conversation devolved quickly from there, with Monte claiming that he never heard of any abuse while attending BJU (and thus that none has ever existed there, much less gone unreported):

Monte got quite the drubbing for his remarks, with blogger John Shore and his comment section piling on as well as a number of angry Twitter users.

And while “Dr.” Monte’s defense of BJU might sound harsh and extreme, it’s no different in substance from what many of the school’s proponents have always said about abuse victims, even as BJU stumbles its way toward the end of the GRACE investigation.

For example, here’s Bob Jones III in 2011 dismissing claims of abuse and publicly stating that BJU has never mishandled a single instance of abuse in its history:

Also in 2011, Jones III said that a rape victim who was neglected while in the care of pastor and favored BJU grad Chuck Phelps acted “consensually” with her rapist.

And on BJU’s Facebook page, a few bold folks came out to oppose victims who testified to their mistreatment at BJU’s hand, calling any kind of criticism of BJU “evil” and “Satan’s work”:

In summary, while not everyone who is defending BJU’s handling of the GRACE situation is as extreme as these examples, there seems to be a trend towards a smaller and more shrill group of BJU apologists. We wonder how Dr. Monte and the others seen here will feel if and when the GRACE report comes out.

And remember, this victim and others like her are the ones whom Monte calls “psychos.”

 

 

 

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21 thoughts on “Remember This BJU Grad Who Said That “Only Psychos Feel Abused”?

  1. baldjonesgrad

    As the public outcry over the GRACE termination becomes louder, so the defenders of BJU will become louder–and fewer. They’re like rats on the proverbial sinking ship.

  2. Anson Mills [BJU Professor John Matzko]

    Wrong metaphor. The phrase “rats deserting a sinking ship” implies you can tell when something’s about to fail because large numbers of people begin to leave. But the phrase also suggests that those who leave are selfish and disloyal.

  3. A James

    I don’t know why I keep trying to understand these intricate verbal wranglings. Must be my love for words. Pardon me while I unproductively try again. According to a couple of dictionaries on my end, they say it “can” (as an optional inference according to context) imply that the rats were disloyal. In Baldy’s context, there is no disloyalty involved. From your perspective, if you used that phrase in relation to the situation, you would be implying that.

    “The primary intent of this metaphor more commonly implies:
    If the ship were to sink the rats would jump off and swim away because they knew
    the ship was sinking and that they needed to swim to safety/shelter.”
    “It can be used to refer to people who ditch a lost cause because they weren’t
    committed to it.” (This works too, in Baldy’s context–as it doesn’t necessarily imply the cause was worthy of the salvaging.)
    “While the captain and men on the ship who would have tried to
    save the cause, the rats just fled.” (Whether the cause was unworthy or the fleeing was cowardice should be interpreted according to context.)

    In my unaccredited degreed opinion, the same metaphor could be used appropriately by either Baldy or Anson even in their polar views on the condition, cause of condition, and people’s motives for fleeing or saving the ship of BJU.

    Talking about words…does BaldJonesGrad imply “no hair” or just “plain or blunt” 🙂

    1. baldjonesgrad

      “Bald” does not refer to the state of my hair. It was our nickname for BJU when I attended in the 70s, fondly named after BJ Jr.

      The numbers of matriculated students has decreased rather dramatically since I attended BJU, giving credence to my rats from a sinking ship metaphor. “Rats” doesn’t refer to their character. It refers to the fact that, when a ship is sinking, even a rat has sense enough to bail out rather than go down with the ship. Others on ship stay aboard and sing as they drown. The rats are the smarter ones.

      1. A James

        Both an English lesson and a BJU History lesson all in one day. Thanks for answering that question as I’ve been wondering since seeing your “name” around. I would have never guessed as I don’t remember that joke in the early 90’s.

        Your explanation is how I took your original comment.
        “In all seriousness, the issue with the termination of the GRACE investigation has dismayed a lot of people, including me.” Agreed.

  4. A James

    Cool links–glad to know of them. Where are you BaldGrad? I’m no match for a professor.
    Here’s my feasibly final feeble attempt at my defense for withholding judgment of a rat’s motives for abandoning a sinking ship apart from context.

    Your first source:
    “Rats have been said to be the first to sense an impending disaster, such as a sinking ship or a gas leak in a mine – so if rats are seen leaving it’s a good idea to follow!”
    The above indicates potential nobility and wisdom in their actions. Call it foresight, instinct of danger, prudence…

    Prospero also seems to commend the rats as the ship is abandoned–the same ship from whence the rats had already abandoned.

    Your second source:
    “We use this proverb in referring to those why are the first to seek safety when danger threatens, or to fade away at the first sight of trouble.”
    Key word, “or”.

    Meaning: “When facing a great crisis, one might be wise to turn and run.”

    Anyway, that’s the best I can do!

    As a professor, a crewmember or captain per se, you deserve some benefit of the doubt that you would have a different obligation or motivation to stay on board longer than the average rat. http://maritimeknowhow.com/ indicates that “a general alarm which consists of seven short blasts followed by one prolonged blast, is usually given in a distress situation such as a collision, fire on board, abandon ship, etc.”

    I trust you will sound the alarm at BJU News so that any of us with a dose of loyalty left can abandon in a timely manner? 😉

  5. A James

    Speaking of potentially sinking ships, here’s some potentially explosive damage.
    North Hills elder take on BJU/GRACE.

  6. Anson Mills [BJU Professor John Matzko]

    Promise. This is my last post about rats fleeing sinking ships.

    “Being burrow dwellers by nature, rats live in the deepest recesses of the ship, in the bilge. This area is so low as to be almost inaccessible to the sailors. Thus the rats become aware of water entering the ship some time before the crew is alerted. As their nesting places are flooded, their continuous shrill cries of alarm quickly summon the rest of the rats from the hold. They build up into a large, frightened mass of rodents making a panicky exodus. This is, of course, a final calamity for the rats, since they will try to swim to eternity and usually do. It is quite natural that a sight such as this would incite the passengers and crew to an equally hasty, harried departure but one that ends less disastrously.
    http://www.fascinatingearth.com/node/189

  7. A James

    Hysterical, especially “since they will try to swim to eternity and usually do.” At least we’ll all end up at the same place…eventually?
    There are ample fun analogical analyses that could take place with this, but I’ll spare you…all but one…

    Maybe the rats and their shrill cries of alarm are those in the social media? Still, though, sometimes they are right, and sometimes not. To each rat his own instinct to flee and warn of impending (real or imagined) doom.

    We’re very off topic (or are we?), so I’ll stop and await the next verbal sparring over verbage.

  8. baldjonesgrad

    I don’t want to get down into the weeds on the rats metaphor:) Neither am I a match for the good professor. My bachelors is from an unaccredited college in Greenville, SC.

    In all seriousness, the issue with the termination of the GRACE investigation has dismayed a lot of people, including me. God help those poor victims who stepped up in faith and spoke to the investigator with GRACE. Now, in a Machiavellian twist, BJU has slammed the door shut on GRACE’s efforts to uncover the truth. The victims have been re-victimized.

    And the good professor may choose to quibble with me over my Machiavellian metaphor, mindless to the shame brought on the body of Christ by BJU’s cover-up of sin.

    Well done.

  9. baldjonesgrad

    And one more thing, Prof. I didn’t spend my career in academic pursuits. There’s certainly nothing wrong with academics. I spent my career mostly as a street cop and detective. I worked a lot of child rape investigations. So forgive me please if I’m a little impatient with metaphorical arguments over rats on ships. I can still see the faces of child rape victims I interviewed 25 years ago. So if I seem a little bitter about the whole GRACE thing, well, I am.

  10. Anson Mills [BJU Professor John Matzko]

    I respect Proverbs 18. 17: “The first to plead his case seems right, until another comes and examines him.” I’ve been associated with BJU for more than 35 years and probably know as much about it’s history as anyone. While I’m more than willing to follow where evidence leads, I intend to hear both sides first.

    1. baldjonesgrad

      35 years…we were probably there together. I graduated school of religion class of 1980. My concern with the GRACE investigation termination involves primarily the victims’ rights; secondarily, the optics of it all. Candidly, it looks like damaging information was seen in the draft report and the whole thing was shut down for damage control.

      The longer this hangs in limbo, the worse it is for BJU. BJU needs to step up and be open and honest. They need to release the GRACE report, of course with the names of victims deleted.

      To do less is to trample the ethics that you and I were both taught there.

  11. Anson Mills [BJU Professor John Matzko]

    I’m easily enough found in the 1980 Vintage. I had a two-year-old then and lived in the basement of a campus house long since demolished.

    I will continue to believe BJU has been both honest and ethical in the conduct of this matter unless evidence proves otherwise.

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  13. Mister Zizzy

    I find it strange this BJU grad’s “defense of his alma mater” fails to menion BJU by name. His church website avoids all mention of that three-letter combination as well.

    Why would a guy who was a BMOC (big man on campus) when I was a student, scrub BJU from his blog, and the site of the church where he pastors. And he’s not the only one doing that.

    If BJU hasn’t changed, and still stands “without apology” for “old-time religion” and Biblical fundamentals, why do the BMOCs go out of their way to keep from mentioning it?

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